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Ward 4 Redistricting Task Force Meeting: March 13 - Shared screen with speaker view
Tiffani Johnson
22:05
Hello! Happy Sunday all.
Tiffani Johnson
26:15
Where does ANC 4B06 stand?
Tiffani Johnson
29:28
Where is 4b09?
Abe
29:50
In Map 1, 4B06 is the unmarked area west of 4B04 and south of 4B05 around Peabody Street.
Abe
29:55
4B09 is east of 4B08.
Abe
30:10
(Also an unmarked area on this graphic)
Tracy Hart
30:17
What is that north dividing line of 4C02?
Tracy Hart
31:17
Bobby, what street is that?
Tiffani Johnson
31:29
So you're getting rid of 4B06? My SMD?
Candace Tiana Nelson
31:38
Looks like the numbering of the is skipped for 4A06.
Patience Singleton
31:50
Where is 4A06?
Abe
32:23
For those following along in ESRI, this map is "FOR MARCH 13 MEETING - Map 1"
Candace Tiana Nelson
32:30
*the SMDs is skipped for 4A06.
Tiffani Johnson
32:39
So are you getting rid of those areas or is this a tech glich? 4B does not wasn't to be inserted into 4D.
Cesse
33:06
Candace, 4A06 is in between 4A05 and 4A07 in this map, there just wasn't enough room for labels
Tracy Hart
33:24
What is the south dividing line street of 4E04?
Tiffani Johnson
34:07
Will the revised map be sent out to Commissioners so we can develop resolutions and alert our constituents?!
Tracy Hart
38:03
@Bobby thanks
Cesse
42:08
Hi Kyd, yes for map 2, Crestwood Dr NW is part of the main 4E01 Crestwood SMD
Cesse
44:08
yes, crestwood is 4E01 in both maps, at a population of 2132 in both.
Tracy Hart
45:38
And the Crestwood Apartments in both maps is now in 4C?
Cesse
46:26
no -- in both maps, the crestwood apartments are in 4E still
Tracy Hart
47:47
In Map 2 Crestwood Apartments are in with Sixteenth Street Heights, i.e. almost non-contiguous?
Tiffani Johnson
47:54
So my SMD is singularly swallowed up by 4D?
Cesse
48:46
Tracy, I don't think I understand your question. In both map 1 and 2, Crestwood Apartments are in 4E still, just there are a few different configurations with what 4E02 looks like.
Cesse
49:53
In both maps, the area where 4B06 is now looks very different.
Tiffani Johnson
50:17
I agree! 4b06 would be in 4d!
Tracy Hart
50:19
Yes, I am wondering why Crestwood Apartments is not in with Crestwood, as there is much more in common between Crestwood Apartments and Crestwood, rather than Crestwood Apartments and Sixteenth Street Heights
Tiffani Johnson
50:33
My constituents are not gonna go for that!
Cesse
51:22
The addition of the Crestwood Apartments would be the Crestwood 4E01 at around 2500-2600 residents, which is way over the 2000 goal for each SMD.
Tiffani Johnson
51:48
You're suggesting removing ANC 4B06 into 4D...that's a significant change!
Tracy Hart
52:16
@Cesse, yes, the proposal has been to have 2 Crestwood SMDs, with the northern one stretching over to east of 16th Street
Barbara
52:40
Good point Naima!
Cesse
52:45
Last week and throughout the process, we heard from several people that they would prefer Kennedy Street stay in the same SMD, meaning it would join 4D. This is represented in Map 1.In Map 2, the 100 and 200 block of Kenney Street remains in 4B.
Tiffani Johnson
54:49
I agree! They have two different demographics and businesses. 4B is working on a resolution opposing this. We should remain in 4b06 and 4b08 respectively.
Barbara
56:30
I agree with Jenn on Missouri Ave.
Abe
58:30
This process has no legal bearing on school boundaries.
Tiffani Johnson
58:43
That is my understanding.
Vince
59:13
nor for MPD boundaries…all of these are separate, which has already been a challenge
Candace Tiana Nelson
59:19
Could Ms. Jefferson's points, those about the comparisons of 4A and 4E not truly showing a before and after comparison with the current borders and demographics to proposed borders and demographics, be addressed and provided for public view or review?
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
59:57
That is quite hard to do!
Candace Tiana Nelson
01:01:08
I understand it could be hard, but if not impossible it would be worth a try, as the information would be most helpful.
Tracy Hart
01:01:22
@Vince, I agree on the 6 Commissioners handling 4E
Tiffani Johnson
01:04:06
Exactly! Thank you Barbara. That is my concern! It will be confusing for residents, many of whom in that area are seniors!
Tiffani Johnson
01:05:12
Am I allowed to speak on behalf of my constituents?
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
01:06:38
I live right there and feel strongly it’s a different neighborhood.
Tiffani Johnson
01:07:31
very much too different neighborhoods. And I am here for myself and Alison Brooks. We do NOT degree with this proposal! At all!!!
Tiffani Johnson
01:07:57
Exactly!
Tiffani Johnson
01:08:31
And the majority of the residents are seniors who know us. And we know them!
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
01:09:09
I concur with Barbara.
Barbara
01:09:57
Thanks for speaking Tiffani.
Tracy Hart
01:13:57
I would ask that if you are going to recirculate a new Map 1 and a new Map 2, that one of these keep Crestwood Apartments in together with Crestwood, rather that separating the Apartments and putting them in with Sixteenth Street Heights. Crestwood needs to keep these contiguous apartments in their SMD, even if it creates two Crestwood SMDs
Ward 4 CM's Office
01:15:09
PSA = Police Service Areas (MPD 4th district sub areas)
Zachary Israel
01:21:15
There actually is an interplay between ANC boundaries and in-district school boundaries with regard to the new border between 4B and 4D. Truesdell Elementary will be undergoing a modernization over the next three years and we’re currently facing serious issues regarding DCPS’ proposal for their proposed swing space location for Truesdell, which may displace most of the 450-student population. It would be far more helpful to incorporate all of Truesdell’s in-district boundaries within the new ANC 4D (by extending 4D’s new border north to Georgia Ave. & Missouri Ave. NW) rather than continuing to split this school community between 4B and 4D.
Zachary Israel
01:21:23
While DCPS in-district boundaries don’t HAVE to be correlated with the new ANC boundaries, in this instance, they should
Patience Singleton
01:25:06
The map mislabels Brightwood. Brightwood does not extend east of Georgia Avenue.
Patience Singleton
01:25:21
Can we see 4A on this map?
Cesse
01:25:33
This map is just an ESRI backdrop that we cannot change.
Candace Tiana Nelson
01:26:15
Could someone answer my question from earlier? I was copy it here for reference: Could Ms. Jefferson's points, those about the comparisons of 4A and 4E not truly showing a before and after comparison with the current borders and demographics to proposed borders and demographics, be addressed and provided for public view or review? There was a comment stating it would be difficult. However, I understand it could be hard, but if not impossible it would be worth a try, as the information would be most helpful.
Cesse
01:27:37
I think we are just voting on a Missouri Ave boundary.
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
01:27:47
Poll not a vote
Cesse
01:28:01
Yes -- poll is a better word
Tracy Hart
01:29:16
sure
Tiffani Johnson
01:29:37
This should be a public meeting as it directly relates to residents of the District of Columbia.
Abe
01:32:03
I'm not following
Abe
01:34:10
Are the options Map 1, Map 2, or Missouri as the entire border between 4B and 4D?
Cesse
01:34:45
I thought we were voting on Missouri Ave boundary for D&B, or something else for D&B
Abe
01:36:16
The ballot is Option 1 - ANC 4B and 4D have a border as in Map 2.
Abe
01:36:27
Or Option 2 - ANC 4B and 4D have a border along Missouri.
Zachary Israel
01:36:30
ANC 4D passed a resolution on Feb. 16 asking the Task Force NOT to break up Brightwood Park!
Abe
01:36:35
(The pulse check options)
Zachary Israel
01:37:01
Here is 4D’s resolution: https://resolutions.anc.dc.gov/AttachmentsFiles/20/ANC%204D%20Resolution%20Regarding%20ANC%204D%20Redistricting_TM_20220218061950PM.pdf
Zachary Israel
01:37:05
We passed it unanimously
Zachary Israel
01:37:35
Please make Missouri Avenue NW the border between 4B and 4D
Cesse
01:38:18
We heard from a few people saying that the small triangle in 4B05 south of Missouri Ave want to be in 4D.
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
01:38:32
Yes, Missouri should be the divider IMO
Zachary Israel
01:38:41
The current 4B05 commissioner also directly told me that he favors this
Abe
01:39:28
And 2 TF members with hands down.
Abe
01:39:45
We did it! We did the pulse check!
Tiffani Johnson
01:39:58
That is fine. We can do that!
Zachary Israel
01:41:31
ANC 4D has asked for 8 SMDs—you can see our proposed map here on page 4 (with Buchanan St. as our southern border, not Crittenden St., which would split Sherman Circle Park between 4C and 4D): https://resolutions.anc.dc.gov/AttachmentsFiles/20/ANC%204D%20Resolution%20Regarding%20ANC%204D%20Redistricting_TM_20220218061950PM.pdf
Candace Tiana Nelson
01:42:34
Thank you, Ms. Jefferson.
Abe
01:43:16
Yes please!
Zachary Israel
01:43:59
The entirety of Sherman Circle Park has ALWAYS been within ANC 4D (since 1976) and we’d like to keep it that way over the next decade!
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
01:57:54
Vince, could I ask which map you prefer re: 4E/4C boundaries?
Vince
02:00:33
@Jenn - I prefer map 1 for SE quadrant as it keeps more of GA ave in 4C and uses Arkansas as a dividing line
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
02:00:42
Thanks, Vince!
Tracy Hart
02:00:51
Vince, my point was that Crestwood seems to have excised Crestwood Apartments from their SMD in order to remain "Crestwood pristine". For us on the east side of 16th Street, it just seems a bit socio-economically inequitable of Crestwood, for lack of a better word, that they want to kick out the Crestwood Apartments in order to have 1 SMD. Especially when if Crestwood had 2 SMDs, they would have 1/3 of the SMDs in 4E.
Zachary Israel
02:00:54
When the final proposed maps are released next week, can the Task Force make sure that the maps are extremely clear to see, especially for the new SMD lines? Would be very helpful
Zachary Israel
02:01:29
*proposed maps
Vince
02:05:02
@Tracy, You have an excellent point and I personally prefer mixed SMDs that have single family residences and community living facilities such as apartments. Drawing these lines are so much more difficult that I could have imagined.
Tracy Hart
02:05:11
@everyone, again, thank you so much for your time and your inclusiveness of the community in this process.
Abe
02:05:31
Very true Roger! We're getting close!!
Tracy Hart
02:05:53
@Vince, I cannot speak for Crestwood, but I would have expected better of them
Jenn Kauffman (she/ella)
02:06:13
I’ve learned so much about my ward!
Cesse
02:06:33
I am intimately familiar with so many census blocks now!
Zachary Israel
02:07:03
Thank you Task Force members! We appreciate your hard work!
Vince
02:07:10
thanks!\